A new study on Covid-19’s infection fatality rate (IFR) by age from a team led by Dr. John Ioannidis, the world’s most-cited physician, estimates that Covid’s IFR in the pre-vaccine era was under 0.1% for those under 70—even lower than previously believed.
If everyone were paying attention they would have noticed the low numbers from the very beginning. There were no instances, anywhere, where entire businesses or families or schools etc. died at rates higher than normal. One of the reasons for the lockdown was to prevent people from seeing and hearing this first hand.
What happened on the cruise ships was repeated on the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt. 5000ish healthy young men living in close quarters and only about 20% of them were infected.
Those two data points (one elderly cruise patrons and the other young men) should have informed you that about 80% of the population at large wasn't susceptible at all to serious illness from the coof.
This was when I knew it was complete bullshit. The aircraft carrier was all over the news for days and then when nothing happened completely disappeared. I was happy that it proved we were going to be ok and it was completely memory holed. The same thing happened in a prison at the same time - damn near 100% infection rate and zero deaths.
Only 20% tested positive for the virus on the USS Theodore Roosevelt. But about 60% later tested positive for the antibodies to the virus. So most people who got it were just barely grazed by it and didn't even know it, and yet they got a free antivirus update to their immune systems.
They really should have given everyone under the age of 40 who was even vaguely healthy a free cruise to build herd immunity even faster. But that would have made too much sense I guess.
Interesting that you mention that. The very same thing was observed with the French aircraft carrier Charles De Gaulle. @20% got noticeably sick, but most of the crew later tested positive for antibodies.
Ioannidis did notice from the beginning. I read and printed out this article on March 17, 2020. Actually I printed it out twice - a copy for each of my then 5 and 8 year old children. Every time an IFR would come out, it would confirm the lower end of his range. Every time the sheep ignored the actual scientists preferring the woke religious leaders the media told them to prefer.
We destroyed a generation of kids, freedom globally, prosperity, falling emissions, improving ecology, and low poverty because of the religion of the woke.
March 2020-May 2020 and nursing home fatality was around 12%. It’s around 6% for other viral outbreaks per John Ioannidis. What was different is also that Cuomo caused hundreds of outbreaks by sending infected patients to the most vulnerable populations.
It was a Plandemic-scamdemic designed to destroy western civilizations so that the 1% can control our every move! Evil!!!! WEF has been working on this since 1971. Really sooner. Tech could allow it.
Way back in early 2020, Ioannidis's careful calculations convinced me that the vax was not necessary. Now it turns out his calculation was too conservative - the CFR was even lower than he thought.
Just think of the implications of the government, the media, and the medical profession ignoring Ioannidis's basic data. The entire COVID enterprise was and is a giant, self-inflicted wound.
Many of us knew this from the very beginning. I hope more and more start to realize exactly how they were made to believe differently - what methods were used to give them a different perception.
Two phrases I learned to despise during the freak out, "If it saves just one life" and "In abundance of caution." Both are fraught with phony concern and irrationality.
Excess deaths in the US are about 20% above normal.
What is killing the extra people? That is rather obvious when you vaxxxxxinate millions with an UNTESTED potentially DANGEROUS drug. They called it a vaccine to get the dumbest of the dumb to get in line.
Nice study by Dr. Ioannidis. Thank you for reporting on it, I am guessing it will not be widely reported on in the MSM or in Public health circles.
From about the middle of 2020 I used UK ONS data and Worldometer and My World in Data data to make a rough mortality rate calculation. I increased PCR test produced “cases” by a factor of 5 based on CDC (and other sources) reporting on true infection levels. I came to a similar level for overall mortality rates for Covid 19, circa 0.2-0.3% and this was matched by Dr Ioannidis’s friend and Stanford colleague Dr Jay Bhattacharya, which I read about later. I am not a doctor or scientist but I have qualifications in Engineering, Finance and analytics. In addition other data points were available such as the demographics and health status of those unfortunate enough to die from Covid 19, i.e. the elderly and/or immune compromised, which was also available from sources such as the US CDC and UK ONS. 95%+ of all death by Covid had significant underlying health issues. 98% were over 45 years of age. Since the Covid vax the rate of death by vax status has rapidly climbed to over 94% vaccinated (UK ONS, last updated in July 2022 for months of May 2022), in a population with circa 75% vaccination rate, you do the mathematics…
Based on this mortality rate analysis I, medically unqualified, determined that the pandemic was an unfounded hysteria that did not justify reversal of decades long pandemic management doctrine in lockdown; ignoring of prior studies on mask efficacy and safety issues (see interviews with Dr Bhattacharya and Professor Carl Heneghan of Oxford department of evidence based medicine on this); wilful ignorance of very long held immune system boosting actions; active suppression of both the Great Barrington Declaration proposals for focused protection and repurposed well known drug treatments for those at risk and, crucially, throwing out the long standing procedures for safety and efficacy assessment in clinical trials, which by definition is NOT what was done to get tacit approval for the so-called Covid vaccines.
If I could determine all that in the middle of 2020 (subsequently for the vax) then how the hell could professors of medicine and science and doctors not also see this??? This is the question that must now be answered and urgently. In the meantime we must demand a cessation to all Covid related policy and any further WHO led claims of health emergency until these questions are answered.
For the record:
- I am not vaccinated against Covid 19 but also not anti vax as such, although my eyes are turning to this industry now and more questions over other past vaccines must be addressed. I will never allow these death shots near me or my family.
- I am anti lockdown (period) and refused to comply
- I am anti mask wearing and refuse to comply
- I have had Covid at least twice, probably more times and confirmed close exposure contact with Covid positive people multiple times (too many to count)
- I reject the so-called “trusted news initiative” and no longer trust the public health bureaucrats, nor the peer review system (see Peter Doshi of the British Medical Journal on this) nor doctors in general.
For that, worldwide governments injected their populations not just once, but twice, three times and four times with experimental gene therapy injections, wrongly categorised as a 'vaccine' with no long term safety data and now we know direct fro Pfizer admission last week in EU Parliament they did not even test their injections to check it stopped transmission. Everyone needs to ask the question WHY?
No doubt Michael has seen it as he is listed in the court documents. I was curious about the details of this lawsuit; you can see all the relevant documents chronologically listed at https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/63290154/missouri-v-biden/ Even for a non-lawyer there's some interesting reading.
There is an extensive list of defendants including the short-lived "Ministry of Truth".
I was curious that most of the individual defendants are members of the Biden Administration, and some of the complaints listed happened during the Trump Administration. However, several government agencies including the CDC and the Department of Homeland Security, and Anthony Fauci, are listed as defendants. So that's good.
We will never get back to how it was - new frontiers upon us to be explored, but I suspect there is going to be a "Time of Transition", or at least I hope there is going to be said. The alternative, I reckon to be frank, is simply extinction of the failed human species in my humble opinion. Seems like an easy choice to somebody and anybody with an open mind, but hells-bells group-think evidently is a powerful force indeed, and big egos I suspect even if you dropped them in a volcano they would still argue they were not mistaken.
With that said, I didn't realize your post was from October 2022, and that in a way makes this whole thing even more sad, twisted, funny, and sick I suppose.
May the best ideas prevail is what I think - I've said that from the get go - but some big egos don't die easy, but die they will.
If everyone were paying attention they would have noticed the low numbers from the very beginning. There were no instances, anywhere, where entire businesses or families or schools etc. died at rates higher than normal. One of the reasons for the lockdown was to prevent people from seeing and hearing this first hand.
What happened on the cruise ships was repeated on the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt. 5000ish healthy young men living in close quarters and only about 20% of them were infected.
Those two data points (one elderly cruise patrons and the other young men) should have informed you that about 80% of the population at large wasn't susceptible at all to serious illness from the coof.
We knew very early on from Diamond Princess. IFR was perhaps 1%. That is in an elderly cohort with high rates of obesity, diabetes etc.
We were conned. Simple as that.
This was when I knew it was complete bullshit. The aircraft carrier was all over the news for days and then when nothing happened completely disappeared. I was happy that it proved we were going to be ok and it was completely memory holed. The same thing happened in a prison at the same time - damn near 100% infection rate and zero deaths.
Somehow those stories got pushed aside for the Omygod we’re all gonna die crap
Yes TR and various prisons. -although these are fairly young populations.
But a cruise ship - the average age is 70-something.
The truth would have been so disappointing to the MSM.
Only 20% tested positive for the virus on the USS Theodore Roosevelt. But about 60% later tested positive for the antibodies to the virus. So most people who got it were just barely grazed by it and didn't even know it, and yet they got a free antivirus update to their immune systems.
They really should have given everyone under the age of 40 who was even vaguely healthy a free cruise to build herd immunity even faster. But that would have made too much sense I guess.
Interesting that you mention that. The very same thing was observed with the French aircraft carrier Charles De Gaulle. @20% got noticeably sick, but most of the crew later tested positive for antibodies.
Indeed
Ioannidis did notice from the beginning. I read and printed out this article on March 17, 2020. Actually I printed it out twice - a copy for each of my then 5 and 8 year old children. Every time an IFR would come out, it would confirm the lower end of his range. Every time the sheep ignored the actual scientists preferring the woke religious leaders the media told them to prefer.
We destroyed a generation of kids, freedom globally, prosperity, falling emissions, improving ecology, and low poverty because of the religion of the woke.
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/
You can say that again!
Remember the cruise ships? Couples locked in their rooms because one person tested positive; the other party never did.
And how high of a cycle threshold were the PCR tests run?
Anything above 25-28, you could have a pineapple test positive.
AMEN.
When was Cuomo packing nursing homes and what was the IFR in those instances?
March 2020-May 2020 and nursing home fatality was around 12%. It’s around 6% for other viral outbreaks per John Ioannidis. What was different is also that Cuomo caused hundreds of outbreaks by sending infected patients to the most vulnerable populations.
The world was shut down for that????
The world wasn't going to STEAL itself.
Haha. No, it wasn’t!
It was a planned, and extremely effective and persuasive, psychological operation.
It was a Plandemic-scamdemic designed to destroy western civilizations so that the 1% can control our every move! Evil!!!! WEF has been working on this since 1971. Really sooner. Tech could allow it.
No, the world was shut down for purposes of power and money for a select group of elites along with the destruction of the West.
The pretext was an illness with a low death rate. Shame on the public for believing and obeying the authorities.
So that Trump wouldn't be president. And everything his presidency would have prevented--Ukraine, etc.
WHO wants the power to shut down the world and force injections on every human if they determine that ANY little fake virus is deadly.
They want to shut it down even if the virus isn't deadly.
Way back in early 2020, Ioannidis's careful calculations convinced me that the vax was not necessary. Now it turns out his calculation was too conservative - the CFR was even lower than he thought.
Just think of the implications of the government, the media, and the medical profession ignoring Ioannidis's basic data. The entire COVID enterprise was and is a giant, self-inflicted wound.
A wound “they” profited from greatly. While everyone else suffered from lockdowns, mandates, forced to take their poison drugs.
Like the song says:
"....Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again"
We won’t but the Covidians will be happy to have a new thing to fear
Wait until the release of the new Omicron brought to you by Fauci funded new gain of function research. HERE IN USA. They have made it 80% IFR.
I read that this morning. How can they get away with this?
Too late. All the damage is done.
People shoulda seen it from the jump. It was obvious.
https://markoshinskie8de.substack.com/p/coronamania-and-deficits-of-pattern
I made the same decision on the vax partly on Ioannidis' and data from around the world and local observation.
Seems a little early to look at this data. Don't we usually have to wait 75 years?
Yes, their plans for us are none of our business.
Has anyone checked if Amazon sells pitchforks and torches?
what about trees and hangman's rope?
The advantage here is that the trees and the rope can be used to hang thousands.
And that's for each tree.
The only hang up would be the judges. Since it was treason we would need to use military tribunals.
We should start a COVID Survivor Group...
We could call it "The 99.9%".
What an absolute scam of a "pandemic"
Plan-demic
Many of us knew this from the very beginning. I hope more and more start to realize exactly how they were made to believe differently - what methods were used to give them a different perception.
Scamdemic so obvious from Day 1.
https://markoshinskie8de.substack.com/p/coronamania-and-deficits-of-pattern
"If it saves just one life....." we let the world burn and our kids suffer needlessly. I despair.
I spoke out from Day 1. And every day since. I pissed off nearly everyone I knew.
Me too. Autistic blunt speaking lol
I got so sick of that phrase, “Can’t you wear a mask to save just one life?” Bah.
Two phrases I learned to despise during the freak out, "If it saves just one life" and "In abundance of caution." Both are fraught with phony concern and irrationality.
I hated the smug “my mask protects you and your mask protects me”, too.
Thank you.
Wonder what "post-vaccination" IFR is.
imma go with a solid 2.0% - just off the top of my head.
Glad I didnt go in for that then!
Excess deaths in the US are about 20% above normal.
What is killing the extra people? That is rather obvious when you vaxxxxxinate millions with an UNTESTED potentially DANGEROUS drug. They called it a vaccine to get the dumbest of the dumb to get in line.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/sharpest-life-expectancy-drop-in-100-years-has-more-causes-than-covid-19_4757756.html
And the dumbest of the dumb are still in line for yet another booster.
Off the charts:
https://open.substack.com/pub/2ndsmartestguyintheworld/p/government-reports-prove-covid-vaccination?r=ft46p&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Nice study by Dr. Ioannidis. Thank you for reporting on it, I am guessing it will not be widely reported on in the MSM or in Public health circles.
From about the middle of 2020 I used UK ONS data and Worldometer and My World in Data data to make a rough mortality rate calculation. I increased PCR test produced “cases” by a factor of 5 based on CDC (and other sources) reporting on true infection levels. I came to a similar level for overall mortality rates for Covid 19, circa 0.2-0.3% and this was matched by Dr Ioannidis’s friend and Stanford colleague Dr Jay Bhattacharya, which I read about later. I am not a doctor or scientist but I have qualifications in Engineering, Finance and analytics. In addition other data points were available such as the demographics and health status of those unfortunate enough to die from Covid 19, i.e. the elderly and/or immune compromised, which was also available from sources such as the US CDC and UK ONS. 95%+ of all death by Covid had significant underlying health issues. 98% were over 45 years of age. Since the Covid vax the rate of death by vax status has rapidly climbed to over 94% vaccinated (UK ONS, last updated in July 2022 for months of May 2022), in a population with circa 75% vaccination rate, you do the mathematics…
Based on this mortality rate analysis I, medically unqualified, determined that the pandemic was an unfounded hysteria that did not justify reversal of decades long pandemic management doctrine in lockdown; ignoring of prior studies on mask efficacy and safety issues (see interviews with Dr Bhattacharya and Professor Carl Heneghan of Oxford department of evidence based medicine on this); wilful ignorance of very long held immune system boosting actions; active suppression of both the Great Barrington Declaration proposals for focused protection and repurposed well known drug treatments for those at risk and, crucially, throwing out the long standing procedures for safety and efficacy assessment in clinical trials, which by definition is NOT what was done to get tacit approval for the so-called Covid vaccines.
If I could determine all that in the middle of 2020 (subsequently for the vax) then how the hell could professors of medicine and science and doctors not also see this??? This is the question that must now be answered and urgently. In the meantime we must demand a cessation to all Covid related policy and any further WHO led claims of health emergency until these questions are answered.
For the record:
- I am not vaccinated against Covid 19 but also not anti vax as such, although my eyes are turning to this industry now and more questions over other past vaccines must be addressed. I will never allow these death shots near me or my family.
- I am anti lockdown (period) and refused to comply
- I am anti mask wearing and refuse to comply
- I have had Covid at least twice, probably more times and confirmed close exposure contact with Covid positive people multiple times (too many to count)
- I reject the so-called “trusted news initiative” and no longer trust the public health bureaucrats, nor the peer review system (see Peter Doshi of the British Medical Journal on this) nor doctors in general.
For that, worldwide governments injected their populations not just once, but twice, three times and four times with experimental gene therapy injections, wrongly categorised as a 'vaccine' with no long term safety data and now we know direct fro Pfizer admission last week in EU Parliament they did not even test their injections to check it stopped transmission. Everyone needs to ask the question WHY?
You seen this Michael?
https://nclalegal.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/86.pdf
No doubt Michael has seen it as he is listed in the court documents. I was curious about the details of this lawsuit; you can see all the relevant documents chronologically listed at https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/63290154/missouri-v-biden/ Even for a non-lawyer there's some interesting reading.
There is an extensive list of defendants including the short-lived "Ministry of Truth".
I was curious that most of the individual defendants are members of the Biden Administration, and some of the complaints listed happened during the Trump Administration. However, several government agencies including the CDC and the Department of Homeland Security, and Anthony Fauci, are listed as defendants. So that's good.
We now live in an anti-universe where the establishment want us to believe the opposite is true.
How we get back to before this insanity is beyond me.
We will never get back to how it was - new frontiers upon us to be explored, but I suspect there is going to be a "Time of Transition", or at least I hope there is going to be said. The alternative, I reckon to be frank, is simply extinction of the failed human species in my humble opinion. Seems like an easy choice to somebody and anybody with an open mind, but hells-bells group-think evidently is a powerful force indeed, and big egos I suspect even if you dropped them in a volcano they would still argue they were not mistaken.
With that said, I didn't realize your post was from October 2022, and that in a way makes this whole thing even more sad, twisted, funny, and sick I suppose.
May the best ideas prevail is what I think - I've said that from the get go - but some big egos don't die easy, but die they will.
BK