I think it's funny that the idea of a man made virus is more dangerous. That is giving more credit than is deserved. But everything you have written makes perfect sense to me. Thank you!
Remember that the "virus" has never been isolated, the inventor of the PCR test, Kary Mullins, specifically stated that it could not be used to accurately diagnose its presence (he conveniently died about 6 months before the "outbreak"), and over 200 countries locked down within 2 weeks of the "outbreak." It was all scripted. Mike Pompeo is on tape saying during a press conference, "We're going forward with this exercise to make it right," to which Trump can be heard responding to him, "You should have told us." I think we're dealing with electronic pollution (5G, etc), and poisoned food, water, air, and who knows what else. Massive depopulation and totalitarian control are the goal by our psychopathic overlords, the Luciferian globalist NWO elite.
"Has never been isolated" is a mindless chant by people who are captive to an odd ideology, a cult of some sort, who replace knowledge of science with superstitious fear. There are many things we don't fully understand, but we know enough to manage them. Whimpering platitudes don't help, but apparently provide some solace to the helpless.
Yes..And when you show them they are 100% wrong..they don`t say a word and continue on anyway..we can all make mistakes..but there is something wrong if you repeat trash and never respond to the corrections..
Thanks for persisting in reporting this. I made a note to get your book when you discussed it previously, but got distracted. This time I ordered it. War with China is inevitable. Very important that everyone understand who we're dealing with. Since the woke US military seems uninterested in defense, China will probably continue to win. My reading plans also include learning mandarin, which we'll need to beg for food when they take over. Maybe it's not too late.
Dont worry about learning Mandarin because the CCP will send us to 're-education' camps. These woke idiots prioritize their energy on the rights of drag Queens and ignore the fate of Uyghurs, Tibetans and Hong Kongers and many others who have been persecuted by the CCP. It's unconscionable.
People have never been very good at predicting the next war. And China probably won't need a hot war, they already own us. And they're developing the military capability to enforce it. Those who are unclear on china's intentions should read 100 Year Marathon (Pillsbury).
This is an amazing post in the sense that the "Lab Leak Theory" only served as a convenient distraction for the true evil that the CCP was inflicting on the world. It shames me that it hadn't occurred to me given my personal exploration of the topic, yet it is a remarkably brilliant observation that offers a whole new perspective on this ugly saga. Bravo, Michael Senger.
RosaryKnight is right. Micheal, it is great that you take apart the lab theory as this has been grating at me for soo long. There are many people who have been fantastic through covid: Bret Weinstein and the PANDA team for instance, but I do wish they would put the virus itself under more scrutiny. I know that many on this side of the fence think the Germ Theory sceptics are a bunch of nutters, but I have listened to the arguments and read many books on the subject and I would like those I respect above, and anyone else with a rational, scientific methodology to get in conversation with those that oppose Germ Theory to get this done and dusted. As far as I'm concerned, with what I have learned, I see nothing other than terrain.
Where was I whining? I was requesting a discussion from those on differing sides on the fence who both claim to respect the scientific method in order to get some clarity over something that this who charade has been built upon. Its great that ivermectin helps those who have whatever is wrong with them. But that does not get to the foundations, you must see why that is important.
Foundations are irrelevant except for determining solutions. Since we have solutions, apparently the foundations are understood well enough. Learning them is worthwhile.
Ivormectin is not the solution, its a drug that seems to help zinc in to the cells to help them recover. This is of course a great discovery. That does not make it the solution. The solution is for people to know how to look after themselves better so that whatever is impacting their health is less of a problem.
It's not the only solution, but it's a significant one. Correctly applied, it would have saved most of the fatalities from succumbing to covid effe to, though many would have subsequently died of other causes. Few people seem interested in maintaining their health, least of all the misnamed health care industry. Their business model reliescentirely on our sickness, not our health.
I agree with you entirely, that's the point I was trying to make. The solution is for everyone to get their own house in order. Then, whatever these illnesses that are branded as Covid actually are, they are nothing to fear and in most cases, ivermectin won't be necessary.
Discrediting what is deliberate misuse of the PCR test would be the best way to bring this fraud down. All the healthy people quarantined must strongly suspect they were never really ill. It would also call into question the current mass culls of healthy looking birds due to "bird flu", all based on most probably misuse PCR.
Even many scientists won’t accept that not determining the operational false positive rate in mass testing completely undermines any & all test results.
I’m often told with apparent irritation that “someone in Australia once measured thousands of samples & found ten cases, so the oFPR cannot be more than 0.1%”.
That won’t do. False positives aren’t built into the kit, at least, not necessarily. Cross contamination can certainly lead to huge values for OFPR & crucially, can vary enormously from lab to lab, operator to operator & also with the true prevalence (plus potential flaws in the kit reagents).
The classic example I cite is the whooping cough outbreak in USA 15 years ago. Turns out that by PCR, the oFPR was 100%.
As far as I can tell, in no large lab was oFPR measured even once, let alone in every run.
I think all of those Chinese videos of people collapsing on the street, people being dragged out of homes and cars, people committing suicide, the portable incineration trucks burning bodies 24/7, and the massive spray trucks going down the main arteries of the city was intentional for the consumption of the west. it spread fear. couple that with sending hundreds of thousands of CCP implants with some sickness in their bodies around the world to key cities propelled mass formation in the West. Sure we had Event 201. So to me have collusion of mass proportions of East and West joining forces to reset the world--this is beyond madness to understand the sheer size and complexity of what we have seen unfold before us since fall 2019 and launch in 2020.
Isn't it somewhat of a false dichotomy to present "Wuhan lab theory" and "wet market theory" as the only two theories that have gained credence?
Quote:
"Currently, there are two politically-popular theories as to how SARS-CoV-2 came about: The Wuhan lab theory and the pangolin, or wet market, theory. "
In the next paragraph quoted, the theory that Covid came from "a lab" seems to be dismissed by conflating it with the theory that Covid specifically came from the Wuhan lab.
Quote:
"As for whether Covid actually came from a lab, the theory’s popularity tends to belie the threadbare evidence in support of it. ... several coronaviruses have been found which are far more genetically similar to SARS-CoV-2 than any that were held at the Wuhan lab;"
But the plausibility that Covid could have come any number of biolabs has already become part of mainstream theory:
"It could have happened in Wuhan, but — because anyone can now “print out” a fully infectious clone of any sequenced disease — it could also have happened at Fort Detrick, or in Texas, or in Italy, or in Rotterdam, or in Wisconsin, or in some other citadel of coronaviral inquiry. No conspiracy — just scientific ambition, and the urge to take exciting risks and make new things, and the fear of terrorism, and the fear of getting sick. Plus a whole lot of government money."
Apart from the wet market theory, which I did not believe for a second, and the Wuhan lab escape theory I wonder if the military games theory has ever been persued. The military games were held just before the breakout. Some of the military had been part of the john hopkins-bill gates exercise of how to handle a pandemic. Did they work with real virus or was it just a fake? Did anyone test the boys who were involved to see if they got infected? I read that several of the military got sick there. That, of course, would mean that the virus, as Dr. Martin says, originated in an american lab. Was china worried about a fight with america? And was america worried they might be pointed at as the cause of the disaster? The american military holds the patents to most of the virus, so that is a tip !
From what I recall, there was a significant genetic variation for the earliest spreading European and NY variants that was distinct from any of the sequences that came from Wuhan. Did it come before or after? Were they separately 'seeded?' Was omicron?
Wuhan lab was certainly involved in gain-of-function research on coronavirus, but it doesn't mean they were the only ones. With all that has come out about US funded biolabs and the involvement of figures like Hunter Biden in firms who are supposed to predict emerging diseases, I find US government credibility on the subject of biowarfare very low. The idea that large amounts of money are being spent in 2022 to secure Soviet bioweapons from 30 years ago is patently absurd.
The Chinese were certainly involved in shaping the media atmosphere to promote lockdowns, but I don't think we should forget more than 20 years of pandemic planning scenarios that universally promoted suspension of civil liberties and vaccination. They were always attended by CIA and US media. The Chinese involvement in things like Event 201 came only recently.
Right. I think Senger is incorrect in framing lockdowns as CCP-style containment. Seems more likely it came from the US. Social distancing was even mentioned in the movie Contagion and apparently there was a lockdown in Boston after the Boston marathon bombing.
Firstly, Chinese Intelligence took down the Labs online presence when they took over and sanitised the Wuhan Lab.
Secondly, the 3 days in Oct when there was no cell phone traffic in the Labs vircinity is not nothing.
Thirdly, that the CCP closed China to Wuhan but thousands went from Wuhan into the world particularly Italy & EU and on to USA, is significant.
I don’t think we’ll ever know everything about this unless the “Bat lady” and staff talk. Considering those doctors the CCP has disappeared, I doubt it.
- maybe not the one from the Wuhan lab you compared it to, but certainly from _a_ lab.
But see Igor Chudov's substack for looking into funny inserts of genetic sequences into SARS-CoV-2, like gp120 from HIV and some 2018 patented sequence.
He (IIRC) also provided a calculation of the likelihood of this naturally occuring, and that number had a lot of zeroes after the dot.
That would make that bug kinda special, in my understanding of the word.
My thoughts are that many labs participated in the creation of multiple strains. We still can't get a natural leap from Delta to Omicron, that I've seen. I think the UNC lab probably did more work than Wuhan, and of course we will never know because they've had multiple years to cover their tracks.
Names like Ralph(?) Baric do turn up, David Martin is attempting some legal work there, no idea how much will come off it. Given how broken things are...
To me the fact that Omicron showed up, ALSO looking like an unfeasible lab creation, just drives home how this was created in a lab. When, where and by whom I cannot say but there seems nothing natural about it
"the origin of Covid and the CCP’s motivations in exporting China’s containment policy"
China plays a role but the origins of lockdowns seems to have come about during pandemic simulations. Here is some information about a 2007 paper which didn't lay out the most extreme version but did help create the policy used in 2020.
"Their policy would become the basis for government planning and would be used extensively in simulations used to prepare for pandemics, and in a limited way in 2009 during an outbreak of the influenza called H1N1. Then the coronavirus came, and the plan was put to work across the country for the first time."
I expect China played the role of being the first to implement lockdowns because it was believable an authoritarian country would implement such an extreme policy and because it would help the west accept a less extreme version - it must be necessary look what China is doing and at least it's not as bad as what's happening in China.
Riddle me this, though: if the virus didn't come from a lab, then how else could the gp120 insert and the furin cleavage site have gotten into the virus? Both mutations are naturally foreign to this type of virus. Also, how did Omicron, originally from the reject pile, manage to get such an unusual number of radical mutations in such a short period of time unless there was yet another lab leak (or release) this time in South Africa?
I think it's funny that the idea of a man made virus is more dangerous. That is giving more credit than is deserved. But everything you have written makes perfect sense to me. Thank you!
I agree with this entirely.
Remember that the "virus" has never been isolated, the inventor of the PCR test, Kary Mullins, specifically stated that it could not be used to accurately diagnose its presence (he conveniently died about 6 months before the "outbreak"), and over 200 countries locked down within 2 weeks of the "outbreak." It was all scripted. Mike Pompeo is on tape saying during a press conference, "We're going forward with this exercise to make it right," to which Trump can be heard responding to him, "You should have told us." I think we're dealing with electronic pollution (5G, etc), and poisoned food, water, air, and who knows what else. Massive depopulation and totalitarian control are the goal by our psychopathic overlords, the Luciferian globalist NWO elite.
"..Remember that the "virus" has never been isolated.."
Since it has been isolated perhaps your trying to say
"It has not been isolated to Kochs postulates"?
Isolation and characterization of SARS-CoV-2 from the first US COVID-19 patient
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7239045/ US COVID-19 patient
Isolation and rapid sharing of the 2019 novel coronavirus (SARS‐CoV‐2) from the first patient diagnosed with COVID‐19 in Australia
https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2020/212/10/isolation-and-rapid-sharing-2019-novel-coronavirus-sars-cov-2-first-patient
First isolation of SARS-CoV-2 outside China wins national research prize
https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2021/first-isolation-sars-cov-2-outside-china-wins-national-research-prize
SARS-CoV-2 Viral Culturing at CDC
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/grows-virus-cell-culture.html
Virus Isolation from the First Patient with SARS-CoV-2 in Korea
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7036342/
Isolation and Full-Length Genome Characterization of SARS-CoV-2 from COVID-19 Cases in Northern Italy
https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/jvi.00543-20?permanently=true
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 isolate Wuhan-Hu-1, complete genome
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/MN908947
"Has never been isolated" is a mindless chant by people who are captive to an odd ideology, a cult of some sort, who replace knowledge of science with superstitious fear. There are many things we don't fully understand, but we know enough to manage them. Whimpering platitudes don't help, but apparently provide some solace to the helpless.
Yes..And when you show them they are 100% wrong..they don`t say a word and continue on anyway..we can all make mistakes..but there is something wrong if you repeat trash and never respond to the corrections..
Repeat after me: "safe and effective".
I prefer "Trust no one"
You are right, there are very many things we don't fully understand, so why do so many pretend that we do.
Many people are too ignorant to know what they don't know. A big part of wisdom is knowing our limitations.
It doesn't how much we know, we will only ever scratch the surface, and I think that will always be the way.
The scratches get deeper every day.
Bang on. Well said Rosary
Thanks for persisting in reporting this. I made a note to get your book when you discussed it previously, but got distracted. This time I ordered it. War with China is inevitable. Very important that everyone understand who we're dealing with. Since the woke US military seems uninterested in defense, China will probably continue to win. My reading plans also include learning mandarin, which we'll need to beg for food when they take over. Maybe it's not too late.
Dont worry about learning Mandarin because the CCP will send us to 're-education' camps. These woke idiots prioritize their energy on the rights of drag Queens and ignore the fate of Uyghurs, Tibetans and Hong Kongers and many others who have been persecuted by the CCP. It's unconscionable.
I too expect hot war, but I expect it be between Russia & NATO (=USA).
The former will lose & has made it clear they’ll go nuclear in defence if there are no other alternatives.
China won’t start & couldn’t win a hot war of aggression on the West.
People have never been very good at predicting the next war. And China probably won't need a hot war, they already own us. And they're developing the military capability to enforce it. Those who are unclear on china's intentions should read 100 Year Marathon (Pillsbury).
I believe we are on the verge of seeing the chinese invasion occur.
This is an amazing post in the sense that the "Lab Leak Theory" only served as a convenient distraction for the true evil that the CCP was inflicting on the world. It shames me that it hadn't occurred to me given my personal exploration of the topic, yet it is a remarkably brilliant observation that offers a whole new perspective on this ugly saga. Bravo, Michael Senger.
Thanks so much Bob V, I really appreciate that!
RosaryKnight is right. Micheal, it is great that you take apart the lab theory as this has been grating at me for soo long. There are many people who have been fantastic through covid: Bret Weinstein and the PANDA team for instance, but I do wish they would put the virus itself under more scrutiny. I know that many on this side of the fence think the Germ Theory sceptics are a bunch of nutters, but I have listened to the arguments and read many books on the subject and I would like those I respect above, and anyone else with a rational, scientific methodology to get in conversation with those that oppose Germ Theory to get this done and dusted. As far as I'm concerned, with what I have learned, I see nothing other than terrain.
What have you learned? Not much, apparently. Whining about "germ theory" doesn't solve anything. Ivermectin does. That's not theory, it's results.
Where was I whining? I was requesting a discussion from those on differing sides on the fence who both claim to respect the scientific method in order to get some clarity over something that this who charade has been built upon. Its great that ivermectin helps those who have whatever is wrong with them. But that does not get to the foundations, you must see why that is important.
Foundations are irrelevant except for determining solutions. Since we have solutions, apparently the foundations are understood well enough. Learning them is worthwhile.
Ivormectin is not the solution, its a drug that seems to help zinc in to the cells to help them recover. This is of course a great discovery. That does not make it the solution. The solution is for people to know how to look after themselves better so that whatever is impacting their health is less of a problem.
It's not the only solution, but it's a significant one. Correctly applied, it would have saved most of the fatalities from succumbing to covid effe to, though many would have subsequently died of other causes. Few people seem interested in maintaining their health, least of all the misnamed health care industry. Their business model reliescentirely on our sickness, not our health.
I agree with you entirely, that's the point I was trying to make. The solution is for everyone to get their own house in order. Then, whatever these illnesses that are branded as Covid actually are, they are nothing to fear and in most cases, ivermectin won't be necessary.
Discrediting what is deliberate misuse of the PCR test would be the best way to bring this fraud down. All the healthy people quarantined must strongly suspect they were never really ill. It would also call into question the current mass culls of healthy looking birds due to "bird flu", all based on most probably misuse PCR.
This I heartily endorse.
Even many scientists won’t accept that not determining the operational false positive rate in mass testing completely undermines any & all test results.
I’m often told with apparent irritation that “someone in Australia once measured thousands of samples & found ten cases, so the oFPR cannot be more than 0.1%”.
That won’t do. False positives aren’t built into the kit, at least, not necessarily. Cross contamination can certainly lead to huge values for OFPR & crucially, can vary enormously from lab to lab, operator to operator & also with the true prevalence (plus potential flaws in the kit reagents).
The classic example I cite is the whooping cough outbreak in USA 15 years ago. Turns out that by PCR, the oFPR was 100%.
As far as I can tell, in no large lab was oFPR measured even once, let alone in every run.
I think all of those Chinese videos of people collapsing on the street, people being dragged out of homes and cars, people committing suicide, the portable incineration trucks burning bodies 24/7, and the massive spray trucks going down the main arteries of the city was intentional for the consumption of the west. it spread fear. couple that with sending hundreds of thousands of CCP implants with some sickness in their bodies around the world to key cities propelled mass formation in the West. Sure we had Event 201. So to me have collusion of mass proportions of East and West joining forces to reset the world--this is beyond madness to understand the sheer size and complexity of what we have seen unfold before us since fall 2019 and launch in 2020.
Isn't it somewhat of a false dichotomy to present "Wuhan lab theory" and "wet market theory" as the only two theories that have gained credence?
Quote:
"Currently, there are two politically-popular theories as to how SARS-CoV-2 came about: The Wuhan lab theory and the pangolin, or wet market, theory. "
In the next paragraph quoted, the theory that Covid came from "a lab" seems to be dismissed by conflating it with the theory that Covid specifically came from the Wuhan lab.
Quote:
"As for whether Covid actually came from a lab, the theory’s popularity tends to belie the threadbare evidence in support of it. ... several coronaviruses have been found which are far more genetically similar to SARS-CoV-2 than any that were held at the Wuhan lab;"
But the plausibility that Covid could have come any number of biolabs has already become part of mainstream theory:
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/coronavirus-lab-escape-theory.html
(Nicholson Baker, Jan 2021)
Quote:
"It could have happened in Wuhan, but — because anyone can now “print out” a fully infectious clone of any sequenced disease — it could also have happened at Fort Detrick, or in Texas, or in Italy, or in Rotterdam, or in Wisconsin, or in some other citadel of coronaviral inquiry. No conspiracy — just scientific ambition, and the urge to take exciting risks and make new things, and the fear of terrorism, and the fear of getting sick. Plus a whole lot of government money."
Apart from the wet market theory, which I did not believe for a second, and the Wuhan lab escape theory I wonder if the military games theory has ever been persued. The military games were held just before the breakout. Some of the military had been part of the john hopkins-bill gates exercise of how to handle a pandemic. Did they work with real virus or was it just a fake? Did anyone test the boys who were involved to see if they got infected? I read that several of the military got sick there. That, of course, would mean that the virus, as Dr. Martin says, originated in an american lab. Was china worried about a fight with america? And was america worried they might be pointed at as the cause of the disaster? The american military holds the patents to most of the virus, so that is a tip !
From what I recall, there was a significant genetic variation for the earliest spreading European and NY variants that was distinct from any of the sequences that came from Wuhan. Did it come before or after? Were they separately 'seeded?' Was omicron?
Wuhan lab was certainly involved in gain-of-function research on coronavirus, but it doesn't mean they were the only ones. With all that has come out about US funded biolabs and the involvement of figures like Hunter Biden in firms who are supposed to predict emerging diseases, I find US government credibility on the subject of biowarfare very low. The idea that large amounts of money are being spent in 2022 to secure Soviet bioweapons from 30 years ago is patently absurd.
The Chinese were certainly involved in shaping the media atmosphere to promote lockdowns, but I don't think we should forget more than 20 years of pandemic planning scenarios that universally promoted suspension of civil liberties and vaccination. They were always attended by CIA and US media. The Chinese involvement in things like Event 201 came only recently.
Right. I think Senger is incorrect in framing lockdowns as CCP-style containment. Seems more likely it came from the US. Social distancing was even mentioned in the movie Contagion and apparently there was a lockdown in Boston after the Boston marathon bombing.
https://www.aier.org/article/the-2006-origins-of-the-lockdown-idea/
"The Kindle title is not currently available for purchase" why do I keep getting this?
Firstly, Chinese Intelligence took down the Labs online presence when they took over and sanitised the Wuhan Lab.
Secondly, the 3 days in Oct when there was no cell phone traffic in the Labs vircinity is not nothing.
Thirdly, that the CCP closed China to Wuhan but thousands went from Wuhan into the world particularly Italy & EU and on to USA, is significant.
I don’t think we’ll ever know everything about this unless the “Bat lady” and staff talk. Considering those doctors the CCP has disappeared, I doubt it.
"might be a supervirus from the Wuhan lab"
- maybe not the one from the Wuhan lab you compared it to, but certainly from _a_ lab.
But see Igor Chudov's substack for looking into funny inserts of genetic sequences into SARS-CoV-2, like gp120 from HIV and some 2018 patented sequence.
He (IIRC) also provided a calculation of the likelihood of this naturally occuring, and that number had a lot of zeroes after the dot.
That would make that bug kinda special, in my understanding of the word.
My thoughts are that many labs participated in the creation of multiple strains. We still can't get a natural leap from Delta to Omicron, that I've seen. I think the UNC lab probably did more work than Wuhan, and of course we will never know because they've had multiple years to cover their tracks.
Names like Ralph(?) Baric do turn up, David Martin is attempting some legal work there, no idea how much will come off it. Given how broken things are...
To me the fact that Omicron showed up, ALSO looking like an unfeasible lab creation, just drives home how this was created in a lab. When, where and by whom I cannot say but there seems nothing natural about it
Now this comes out about another Fauchi spook and monkeypox.
https://merylnass.substack.com/p/faucis-covid-origins-coverup-spook?utm_source=%2Finbox&utm_medium=reader2&s=r
"the origin of Covid and the CCP’s motivations in exporting China’s containment policy"
China plays a role but the origins of lockdowns seems to have come about during pandemic simulations. Here is some information about a 2007 paper which didn't lay out the most extreme version but did help create the policy used in 2020.
https://www.aier.org/article/the-2006-origins-of-the-lockdown-idea/
"Their policy would become the basis for government planning and would be used extensively in simulations used to prepare for pandemics, and in a limited way in 2009 during an outbreak of the influenza called H1N1. Then the coronavirus came, and the plan was put to work across the country for the first time."
A good video of these pandemic simulations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3WUv5SV5Hg
I expect China played the role of being the first to implement lockdowns because it was believable an authoritarian country would implement such an extreme policy and because it would help the west accept a less extreme version - it must be necessary look what China is doing and at least it's not as bad as what's happening in China.
This whole Covid/lockdown/jab abomination sounds like a psyop within a psyop within a psyop!
Riddle me this, though: if the virus didn't come from a lab, then how else could the gp120 insert and the furin cleavage site have gotten into the virus? Both mutations are naturally foreign to this type of virus. Also, how did Omicron, originally from the reject pile, manage to get such an unusual number of radical mutations in such a short period of time unless there was yet another lab leak (or release) this time in South Africa?