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Jaime Jessop's avatar

How do you know that ALL of the clotting observed relates to incorrect treatment? You don't. In fact, standard treatment for clotting was given, but it didn't work. From the second link:

"Many COVID-19 patients in the ICU are developing blood clots, including clots in small vessels, deep vein thromboses in the legs, clots in the lungs, and stroke-causing clots in cerebral arteries. This has been happening even though these patients, in accordance with standard intensive care practice, are put on blood thinner drugs such as heparin to prevent clots as soon as they come to the ICU. This COVID-19-related clotting often does not respond well to standard prevention methods and, in some cases, to standard treatments, even with high doses of blood thinners."

I've already pointed out that the long, stringy, rubbery clots being pulled from corpses appeared only AFTER the mass vaccinations but there is clearly a link between abnormal clotting, infection with the virus and being jabbed - that link is the spike protein. But according to what JJ Couey is saying, the virus doesn't exist, so neither does the spike protein.

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PamelaDrew's avatar

"But according to what JJ Couey is saying, the virus doesn't exist, so neither does the spike protein."

Maybe you should listen to his streams before making a fool of yourself with claims that have no basis in fact.

Not sure how you concluded JJ does not believe in viruses when every flippin stream is about how virus behave in the wild and in the body. What JJ argues is that the system Mother Nature controls it is impossible to attribute a level of FIDELITY to particular mutation when the conserved proteins in the SWARM of coronavirus in the background, which include SPIKE mutate in every infected person & variants move away from the least stable ie spike to the most highly conserved.

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Jaime Jessop's avatar

I read the article which makes it very clear that JJ does not believe there was a GOF virus which caused a pandemic. For this to be true, you have to explain the array of novel clinical symptoms in patients who were allegedly infected with this GOF virus. You have not done that. You have not explained the very similar array of vascular symptoms occurring in those supposedly 'vaccinated' against this virus using the viral spike protein as the antigenic target. Instead, you have accused me of being a fool.

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PamelaDrew's avatar

"I read the article which makes it very clear that JJ does not believe there was a GOF virus which caused a pandemic. "

For followup.. is there a link for the referenced article? Maybe you should listen to what he says and have a straight from the source attribution not begin with an incorrect premise.

Science isn't my sport but it is very clear that the issues center on FIDELITY beyond the lab vials when the GoF are released in the wild but JJ does a magnificent job of explaining IF you take the time to walk through the science.

Scroll down for video https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/rfk-jr-podcast-flu-data/

https://rumble.com/v1z3r6u-how-to-build-a-supervirus-bioweapon-round-table-w-jonathan-couey.html

https://rumble.com/v1scfwe-nanoparticle-model-of-vaccine-injury-round-table-w-marc-girardot-jessica-ro.html

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PamelaDrew's avatar

"For this to be true, you have to explain the array of novel clinical symptoms in patients who were allegedly infected with this GOF virus."

Not quite right. According to FLCCC doctors we had no "novel symptoms" we had novel policy of CDC directed treatment excluding all the cheap, effective repurposed drugs.

If you can show that denial of treatment had no impact on excess deaths then maybe it's possible to search for a new cause of death. If patients were denied antibiotics and early treatments in any normal flu season what would happen?

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Le Chat Noir's avatar

Denial of treatment and inappropriate treatment absolutely were a main cause of death, but that doesn’t mean covid was the same a normal flu. For one thing, it can enter many different tissues using multiple mechanism of entry into cells. That is not normal for a regular respiratory virus.

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PamelaDrew's avatar

We don't know that. Untreated conditions lead to a full array of complications and long term health effects. We can't compare a unique response to standard care and conclude the virus was worse. If it were a worse virus it's hard to convince me; when policy aimed for the highest death toll they could and total excess mortality was minuscule compared with years when hospitals tried to save lives.

Do we know how patients present when they have serious illness and have no care? What longer term problems would develop in a "normal" flu season if the population were kept locked down and stressed out over lies of mortal risk for all. Some still believe the risk of hospitalization was near 50% ffs. if early treatment had been deployed and Covid infected patients weren't packed into nursing homes, like here in New York, where Cuomo granted immunity to the nursing homes for excess deaths, it may have been one of the mildest seasons with a small segment of very old & sickly suffering more that year.

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Jaime Jessop's avatar

I showed you evidence of novel, hyper inflammatory blood clots, not characteristic of typical ARDS and not responsive to traditional anti-coagulation therapies. If that's not a novel pathology with respect to a respiratory virus, then I don't know what is.

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Jaime Jessop's avatar

Oh, and my argument was not that denial of treatment/inappropriate treatment/administration of lethal drugs did not significantly inflate mortality - it obviously did.

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PamelaDrew's avatar

Way out of my field for science but you can challenge my source, Dr Ryan Cole coming up live now on Highwire re sworn testimony w Senate Panel yesterday & you tell me where he's wrong and you are correct. https://thehighwire.com/watch/

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Jaime Jessop's avatar

I'll check out what he's saying later.

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tracy's avatar

No novel symptoms.

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